Last year I tried using pretty large baits by ended up really irritated. When on floats, they caused unmanageable tangles. On bottom, they pulled the bait clicker non-stop and ended up in snags. How do you guys fish with large baits, lets say over a pound? What setups work best? I'm mostly interested in fishing lakes, but river rigs might be useful to know as well. I have tried cutting the fins off, adding 5 ounces of weight, etc. I really need help in this area.
I just run a bigger sinker. Also with large baits trying not using a leader at all, the sinker will keep it pinned better on the bottom not letting it get the momentum to pull away. When I'm fishing from the boat ill throw my big baits out the back of the boat. Floats I can't help ya with.
Using more than 8 oz of weight will sometimes cause the hook to rip out of the bait when a flathead is running, I like doing what smoothkip does(no leader at all) but if the bait keeps pulling line out of the clicker that means he will have all the line he wants to swim around, causeing proplems around snags, so if your bait is pulling the clicker alot make sure every once in awhile you reel in the slack, and repeat agin and agin. Cutting the fins does help alot too.
When using big baits you should keep taking back slack like Ducky said. The baits constantly fighting the sinker is a good thing because hunting flathead will investigate the vibrations.
I usually keep mending the lines on big baits to keep them from wandering to submerged timber. If the process gets really old I may put a flat rock over a piece of line to the side of the rod. A flathead will pull the line free but the baitfish will continue to struggle without pulling it out.
I imagine you could experiment with putting a rubber band on the line looped around an eye on the rod but that could also be a recipe for disaster. Probably better to get a downrigger release from Cabelas and adjust the tension so the baitfish can't pull free.
I have a few lever drag reels and I can adjust the drag incrementally to make it harder for the baits to take line. I am very careful when I do this because a fast running flathead can drag a rod in.
You can tighten the cast control on levelwinds after the bait is set but this often doesn't help enough to keep big baits from taking line.
The only thing I can reccomend on floats is to experiment with paternoster rigs till you get something that works. I've studied the idea and worry there are to many complex connections which could lead to lost fish.
Anyone that knows me knows that it must be really simple for me
Robby, Ive seen what Aaron is talking about. He uses rod holders deep in the river bank and backs his drag off some so you will get the circle to find its mark but not locked down so much that he will take rod and all. I tried this method late last year and was 6 for 6 on flatheads 48# being biggest. I always told myself that i would never use circles and old Massey made me a believer. The new 10/0 circle from bottom dwellers is the hook of choice, much bigger gap than the Gamas.
Post by bassmassey on Mar 14, 2011 22:03:15 GMT -5
kip, I remember you had the 2# bullhead 70 yds down the river bank and about saw the glow stick on the tip of your rod about hit the water.....lol
that's joey that likes to back his reels off.........i like to keep mine at about the drag that you would fight a decent fish with in a rod holder that isn't going to go anywhere......
imo I beleive flatheads don't mind the tension as long as it stays the same, picking up a rod pre-maturely seems like they will drop it sometimes........there's been alot of shovelheads caught on limblines, jugs, and trot lines and nobody set those hooks.......