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Post by dreadnaught on Mar 29, 2011 21:55:09 GMT -5
I am observent most times to a fault and, I am sorry but, I am gonna say it anyway. Sorry if this ruffles any feathers but here goes.
I have seen a few pics of fish being held by gill plates which to me is a GREAT BIG NO NO!!! These same pics are of fish that were eledgedly released. Well, let's think about this for a minute.....
If I were to hold you up off of the ground by grabbing you under your lower ribs, do you think you would be able to breathe right right after I put you down?? NO ...you wouldn't!!!!
So what make a person think a fish is any different??? Gill plates are just like your ribs, they protect your lungs!!!
The intire proccess of netting, weighing, photographing and, releasing takes no more than 3 to 5 minutes. Take a picture of the individual fish and release it where you caught it. If you didn't bring a camera or, scales oh well, remember them next time!!!
OK, I'm done!!!!
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Post by Seanstone on Mar 29, 2011 22:14:36 GMT -5
I agree that this technique of holding a fish is bad. I have seen a few pictures on the website of people holding the fish by the gills, even by some of the Experts. I imagine that some of the pictures were taken before people really began to talk about catch and release catfishing. As far as that goes holding a fish by the lip is hard on the fish and can even tear the gill arch. I admit I have used the lip holding technique a few times, it just makes for better pictures. I try to minimize the time the fish is hanging by its lip though. I'm just pleased to hear that people care about releasing large fish and putting an effort forth to preserve those fish. I understand your concern for the fish, but holding a fish by the gills isn't nearly as bad as hoop netting, trotlining, limblining, jugging, noodling, etc. If I killed every flathead I caught all year long I wouldn't hold a candle to the flame of those commercial fisherman.
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Post by Smoothkip on Mar 29, 2011 22:15:00 GMT -5
I understand what your getting at JW. It is very important to handle big fish in a manner of a healty return to the water. I also fish tourneys and have wondered about the negative impacts of catching fish in one location and being released say 2 or 3 locks down river. In a small system that can be very tragic to a population of fish and say gene pool.
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Post by dreadnaught on Mar 29, 2011 22:17:26 GMT -5
I understand your concern for the fish, but holding a fish by the gills isn't nearly as bad as hoop netting, trotlining, limblining, jugging, noodling, etc. If I killed every flathead I caught all year long I wouldn't hold a candle to the flame of those commercial fisherman. Ya, and don't get me started on those people, LOL!!! |
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Post by Catfishrollo on Mar 29, 2011 22:22:32 GMT -5
Very good post JW. My favorite way anymore to hold a fish of any weight I plan on releasing is either by craddeling him totally, or by holding it from the mouth with one hand and trying to support the lower body weight with the other hand. I have held fish in many different manners over the years, but overtime have changed my ways like many. Thanks for the post bro... rollo
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Post by dreadnaught on Mar 29, 2011 22:26:19 GMT -5
Very good post JW. My favorite way anymore to hold a fish of any weight I plan on releasing is either by craddeling him totally, or by holding it from the mouth with one hand and trying to support the lower body weight with the other hand. I have held fish in many different manners over the years, but overtime have changed my ways like many. Thanks for the post bro... rollo I had to edit most of the 1st post to keep from starting a WAR, LOL!!! |
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Post by Seanstone on Mar 29, 2011 22:31:45 GMT -5
Sometimes its better not to start a war. Its usually frustrating and nothing really gets resolved. I went back and forth on the wording of my post as well.
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Post by dreadnaught on Mar 29, 2011 22:43:11 GMT -5
Sometimes its better not to start a war. Its usually frustrating and nothing really gets resolved. I went back and forth on the wording of my post as well. Ya, but, I am not usually one to pull punches to keep from stepping on toes, LMAO!!!! I am in rare form tonight, LOL!!! |
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Post by papaw714 on Mar 30, 2011 2:01:34 GMT -5
Heck JW you didn't even start a battle let alone a war. I would have to agree with your post,as time goes on we learn better ways of doing things as Rollo stated. We all need to learn for the future of the the sport we all love. Thanks JW great post.
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Post by katfish on Mar 30, 2011 18:10:40 GMT -5
The CPR guys agree on careful fish handling.  This is my first weigh sling. The Europeans assured me it could handle the largest fish but even after modifications to strengthen it the sling failed.  MMagis made a sling and I have made 2 more. This is the absolute best for weighing fish so they aren't harmed and they don't damage scales or themselves. This is my current sling made from an old cot.  I am currently investigating medical slings used for holding humans that are incapacitated. Hospitals use them to bathe patients thtt are immobilized. When I got new canvas on the Catfish Queen both guys agreed that they could fabricate strong slings but neither has followed through. |
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Post by Catfishrollo on Mar 30, 2011 18:43:30 GMT -5
I like it Robbie. I have been looking for a good weigh sling myself the past few months. Not sure what to get. They are def. worth their money for weighing large fish! Have weighed fish in the past using the scale, and the landing net, but the sling is def. a great option for weighing and protecting big fish. Thanks for post man. Def. will be getting something like that soon. rollo
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Post by dreadnaught on Mar 31, 2011 20:58:31 GMT -5
The CPR guys agree on careful fish handling. This is my first weigh sling. The Europeans assured me it could handle the largest fish but even after modifications to strengthen it the sling failed. MMagis made a sling and I have made 2 more. This is the absolute best for weighing fish so they aren't harmed and they don't damage scales or themselves. This is my current sling made from an old cot. I am currently investigating medical slings used for holding humans that are incapacitated. Hospitals use them to bathe patients thtt are immobilized. When I got new canvas on the Catfish Queen both guys agreed that they could fabricate strong slings but neither has followed through. I like this concept, have you tried it in a boat? Just wondering how well it would work in that sittuation! Looks like it would be rather cumbersome but, I like it!!! |
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Post by mmagis on Apr 1, 2011 5:58:16 GMT -5
I like this concept, have you tried it in a boat? Just wondering how well it would work in that sittuation! Looks like it would be rather cumbersome but, I like it!!! You'd have to have some way of hanging it if you want to use it to weigh fish. They're too big for a person to hold. |
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Post by dreadnaught on Apr 1, 2011 7:29:30 GMT -5
I like this concept, have you tried it in a boat? Just wondering how well it would work in that sittuation! Looks like it would be rather cumbersome but, I like it!!! You'd have to have some way of hanging it if you want to use it to weigh fish. They're too big for a person to hold. That is what I was thinking!!! |
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