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Post by CatfishHunter on Jul 26, 2013 5:44:24 GMT -5
Is it any good for bank fishing the Missouri River for flathead and blues? The MH is 10' 12-40 lb line rating and 1-6 oz lure weight with 8 guides and the Heavy is 12' 20-40lb line rating and 1-10 oz lure rating with 6 guides. Both are 2 pieces. Would they work?
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Post by Chuck on Jul 26, 2013 6:57:00 GMT -5
I sure wouldn't want to be hooked up to a fish of a lifetime on the Big Mo with its violent current with either one of those. Now the 7 ft Beefstick with stainless guides without inserts is a total beast, and cheap. Can't remember the model number, but I can find out, it's solid fiberglass and it could stand up to being ran over by a truck. Only problems are, it's the heaviest rod I know of by a long shot, and it doesn't cast well. I still recommend the Catfight Takedown rod. Estimated restock date late August.
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Post by CatfishHunter on Jul 26, 2013 10:31:03 GMT -5
I sure wouldn't want to be hooked up to a fish of a lifetime on the Big Mo with its violent current with either one of those. Now the 7 ft Beefstick with stainless guides without inserts is a total beast, and cheap. Can't remember the model number, but I can find out, it's solid fiberglass and it could stand up to being ran over by a truck. Only problems are, it's the heaviest rod I know of by a long shot, and it doesn't cast well. I still recommend the Catfight Takedown rod. Estimated restock date late August. My only issue with that is, I'll be applying at bass pro within the next week or two, and if I get the job, I'll have 20% off everything but guns and optics and 40% off anything with bass pro's name on it. |
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Post by Chuck on Jul 26, 2013 10:39:31 GMT -5
I think the Beefstick I'm talking about is only like $35.
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Post by CatfishHunter on Jul 26, 2013 11:35:34 GMT -5
I think the Beefstick I'm talking about is only like $35. I think that's the one I was looking at. I keep getting told different things. I'm trying to find a cheap but reliable rod to put an Alphamar 16 or 20 on. |
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Post by CatfishHunter on Jul 26, 2013 11:37:41 GMT -5
I think the Beefstick I'm talking about is only like $35. It's gonna be for blues and channels bank fishing on the Missouri River. |
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Post by Chuck on Jul 26, 2013 14:32:32 GMT -5
I will get you the model number. It's the only Beefstick I can recommend personally. Stainless guides, no inserts. The others have inserts. You are bound to get differing opinions and advice. Everyone likes different stuff. You just have to try different equipment to find what works for you. For instance, I don't like any of the ugly stick rods I have tried, including the tigers.But many, many people love them. Different needs and experiences.
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Post by CatfishHunter on Jul 26, 2013 14:57:00 GMT -5
I want something 9' with the strength of the tigers.
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Post by CatfishHunter on Jul 26, 2013 15:02:15 GMT -5
I will get you the model number. It's the only Beefstick I can recommend personally. Stainless guides, no inserts. The others have inserts. You are bound to get differing opinions and advice. Everyone likes different stuff. You just have to try different equipment to find what works for you. For instance, I don't like any of the ugly stick rods I have tried, including the tigers.But many, many people love them. Different needs and experiences. Any clue what would be 9' with the strength of the tiger? |
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Post by Skyline1506 on Jul 26, 2013 16:07:09 GMT -5
i have 4 of the rods chuck is talking about. those 2 piece ones have inserts and are junk.
bt701mhr thats the seven foot casting
bf-bt66mhr is the 6foot 6in casting
they are heavy as far was weight but pack a hell of a punch and will winch a boat off the bottom. stainless eyes. badass flathead rods
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Post by CatfishHunter on Jul 26, 2013 16:21:52 GMT -5
i have 4 of the rods chuck is talking about. those 2 piece ones have inserts and are junk. bt701mhr thats the seven foot casting bf-bt66mhr is the 6foot 6in casting they are heavy as far was weight but pack a hell of a punch and will winch a boat off the bottom. stainless eyes. badass flathead rods Thank you  it's a toss up because I'm gonna be bank fishing so I want length but at the same time I want something proven and sturdy. Right now I'm thinking about 3 rods. The tiger, that beefstick, and a pro angler tackle catfish rod. |
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Post by Chuck on Jul 26, 2013 16:44:46 GMT -5
I will get you the model number. It's the only Beefstick I can recommend personally. Stainless guides, no inserts. The others have inserts. You are bound to get differing opinions and advice. Everyone likes different stuff. You just have to try different equipment to find what works for you. For instance, I don't like any of the ugly stick rods I have tried, including the tigers.But many, many people love them. Different needs and experiences. Any clue what would be 9' with the strength of the tiger? As I don't find the Tiger to be what I would consider "Strong", I guess I would have to say my answer is no. I have tried tons of rods over the last 20 years or so, looking for just the right combination of characteristics. Everything from $30 rods, all the way up to an $1100 custom rod. First you have to decide on what it is you want the rod to do. Then decide what is the maximum amount of money you are willing to spend to get a rod that meets your needs. If you are only willing to buy the rod from BPS, that will limit your choices a lot. I can tell you once you go past about 8', your choices get to be pretty slim in the "budget rod" category. At least rods I would feel comfortable recommending. |
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Post by Chuck on Jul 26, 2013 20:26:18 GMT -5
Here are a couple 9' rods I can recommend 100%.
The Okuma EVx Musky models EVX-C-931H-Ta and EVX-C-931XH-Ta.
These are proven rods that will handle the pressure of casting large baits with heavy sinkers. I know several muskie guys who use these to cast huge lures all day 200 plus days a year. I talked to Dave from Bottom Dwellers about these rods some months ago. He said he could get them for me, just take a few weeks to get them in. At some point I will be adding a few of these rods to my arsenal. I'm expecting to switch over almost exclusively to these rods for almost all of my catfishing needs. Check out the EVx Musky models on the Okuma site. I will be testing the 6' 10" XH, and 7' 4" H models. The perfect length for me is 7', which unfortunately Okuma doesn't have in this series. Yes, these rods are more expensive than the others you have mentioned. But, I think they are more than worth it. So for my final recommendation on this topic, for any rod length between 6' 10" and 9' 3" I recommend the EVx Musky.
As for reels to go on any of these rods. My number 1 choice is still the same, Penn Fathom, or the Penn Squall star drag. If you want to have what amounts to an adjustable clicker, get a lever drag reel such as the Shimano Charter Special, Penn Squall Lever Drag - would be my choice as it is used by many long distance casters as their reel of choice.
So my rig of choice would be this:
A Penn Fathom FTH 20LW or Penn Squall SQL25N star drag or Penn Squall SQL30LD lever drag spooled up with Ande Premium mono, or Spiderwire Stealth Camo braid line, on any of the 8' plus Okuma EVx Musky rods and you should be able to cast most of the way across the Missouri River with some big bait and a heavy sinker.
This combo should give you tons of power, drag, and casting distance, enough to give you a fighting chance to land any cat in the Missouri River.
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Post by CatfishHunter on Jul 26, 2013 21:23:14 GMT -5
Here are a couple 9' rods I can recommend 100%. The Okuma EVx Musky models EVX-C-931H-Ta and EVX-C-931XH-Ta. These are proven rods that will handle the pressure of casting large baits with heavy sinkers. I know several muskie guys who use these to cast huge lures all day 200 plus days a year. I talked to Dave from Bottom Dwellers about these rods some months ago. He said he could get them for me, just take a few weeks to get them in. At some point I will be adding a few of these rods to my arsenal. I'm expecting to switch over almost exclusively to these rods for almost all of my catfishing needs. Check out the EVx Musky models on the Okuma site. I will be testing the 6' 10" XH, and 7' 4" H models. The perfect length for me is 7', which unfortunately Okuma doesn't have in this series. Yes, these rods are more expensive than the others you have mentioned. But, I think they are more than worth it. So for my final recommendation on this topic, for any rod length between 6' 10" and 9' 3" I recommend the EVx Musky. As for reels to go on any of these rods. My number 1 choice is still the same, Penn Fathom, or the Penn Squall star drag. If you want to have what amounts to an adjustable clicker, get a lever drag reel such as the Shimano Charter Special, Penn Squall Lever Drag - would be my choice as it is used by many long distance casters as their reel of choice. So my rig of choice would be this: A Penn Fathom FTH 20LW or Penn Squall SQL25N star drag or Penn Squall SQL30LD lever drag spooled up with Ande Premium mono, or Spiderwire Stealth Camo braid line, on any of the 8' plus Okuma EVx Musky rods and you should be able to cast most of the way across the Missouri River with some big bait and a heavy sinker. This combo should give you tons of power, drag, and casting distance, enough to give you a fighting chance to land any cat in the Missouri River. Thank you! You've been a ton of help |
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Post by Chuck on Jul 26, 2013 21:30:02 GMT -5
You're welcome. By the way. The Squall reels don't have a level wind. That may or may not be an issue for you. Considering they cost about the same as the Fathom, I would get the Fathom. I would save as long as needed to get this rig. It should last long enough to pass on to your kids with proper care. And that my friend is worth a little extra work to have. Good luck with your choices. Add me on Facebook if you want to chat about tackle sometime. I'm Chuck Luck on FB.
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it's a toss up because I'm gonna be bank fishing so I want length but at the same time I want something proven and sturdy. Right now I'm thinking about 3 rods. The tiger, that beefstick, and a pro angler tackle catfish rod.