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Post by rcbbracing on Aug 16, 2011 11:15:21 GMT -5
I have an Abu Garcia 7000b and the clicker in it is amazingly stiff. I always liked that for keeping bigger baits still so they didnt run the clicker at all. But while throwing cutbait I noticed i get quite a few runs that was only take a foot of line and never come back...think the clicker tention is scaring them off? Should I reserve this reel just for circle hooks and flatheads?
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Post by mmagis on Aug 17, 2011 6:05:47 GMT -5
It’s always easy to think that, but realistically if those fish were big enough to catch they’d have no trouble with the clicker. You’re most likely getting pestered by very small channel cats, or another pest.
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Post by rcbbracing on Aug 17, 2011 10:20:13 GMT -5
Kind of my thoughts about if they were big enough they wouldn't care. If you are right though this reel must be cursed because its the only one I have that seldom catches fish and always gets that short spurt out if the clicker...thanks mmagis
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Post by mmagis on Aug 17, 2011 11:09:26 GMT -5
There is one way to check if it's the clicker or not, something I've done in the past when I thought the same thing. Turn the clicker off, but tighten the tension knob down enough that that you won't get a birds nest with a fast run. You do need to keep an eye on it to prevent a fish from running out half your line.  |
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Post by catfishhunter on Aug 17, 2011 14:00:58 GMT -5
or you can just sell it to me cheap lol  |
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Post by Catfishrollo on Aug 17, 2011 18:55:13 GMT -5
If they are big fish they won't care. Most big fish pretty much inhale baits most of the time. My biggest thing is don't change tention much right before hooksets. rollo
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Post by Seanstone on Aug 21, 2011 15:33:36 GMT -5
I recently purchased 2 7000s and I have had the same problem in lakes. Fish run, but drop the baits. I have no idea why though, I switched to circle hooks and they will load the rod just fine. I'm not catching monsters, 5-10# channels mostly. I have had these reels for 4 months now and I have yet to have a fish pull clicker smoothly, its always really jerky. I believe that a 10# fish should pull them no problem, once one eats my bait that is. Lol.
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Post by catfishhunter on Aug 21, 2011 19:42:03 GMT -5
thats channels man...They do that jerky bullwhack!
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Post by Seanstone on Aug 23, 2011 13:41:47 GMT -5
Caught a couple small flats on live bait that did the same thing. Not really what I'm targeting but i was happy to catch something.
rcbbracing: Once you hear the fish pull clicker a couple times, pick the rod up and shut the clicker off, then feel the spool with your thumb. If it takes off set the hook. Most of the time its small anyway.
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Post by Skyline1506 on Aug 23, 2011 14:57:50 GMT -5
sean if i recall correctly your 50 dollar flathead that night on the muskingum was a jerky run like that
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Post by Seanstone on Aug 23, 2011 22:33:45 GMT -5
Yep it pulled really hard and stopped. Pulled a few more clicks and stopped again. I turned the clicker off and it pulled pretty consistently. I have had other small flats do the same thing from the boat. I have been running circles alot lately so I'm not real sure where at what weight the fish will pull the clickers consistently, but I am assuming at 8 pounds they wont care about the extra tension. Saying that is crazy because I have had 3 pound channel load my rods with no problem and I am sure that they feel more tension when loading a rod than those clickers would require. So I don't know.  |
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Post by colsrob on Sept 3, 2011 1:31:02 GMT -5
If you think it's really that stiff, then it must be sending shockwaves down the line as well. A line, especially when being hit and put under pressure, is just like the 2 tin cans and a piece of string phone. Fish might be surprised by a strange new sound, even though they are hungry.
Loading a rod without a clicker does not make a sound, even though it still creates resistance. Thus they are not spooked.
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Post by hunted on Sept 4, 2011 19:07:27 GMT -5
If I get a hit like that, I usually turn the clicker off. It usually keeps going and is a smaller fish. Although I have had bigger fish do that, rarely though. I use 6500's, so not sure how much more tension a 7000 would have on the clicker. I've had two pound channels run em like they were hooked to a car.
Are you casting? If so, how tight is the spool tension set? It won't make the clicker stiffer, but the spool will be. Coupled with the clicker. That may not be helping. I loosen mine until the spool moves back and forth, then turn it until it quits moving back and forth. To where there is pretty much no resistance.
Rod angle has an affect on it also. If it is not pointing pretty much at the bait, then it will be harder for the fish to pull it also. they are fighting the rid as well as trying to pull the clicker.
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Post by Seanstone on Sept 8, 2011 12:21:57 GMT -5
Colsrob:
Vibration could very well be a factor. I once theorized that using bait clickers in a boat was detrimental to fishing. Because the clicker would vibrate throughout the boat and into the water. In turn spooking the fish. The same can be said when using a clicker when laying your rod on a dock. I came to the conclusion that once a large fish was pulling the clicker and had the bait, that he did not care about some vibration. Who knows in areas where fish have been caught a time or two, they may have developed a fear of clicker like vibrations. Just like some fish won't hit floats because they have been caught on them before.
Hunted:
I can't speak for rcbbracing, but most of the time I am casting. Even if I'm not, I rarely touch either of the breaks (what I call the knobs that control the spool tension) on the 7000. I have yet to run into strong enough current to pull clicker in order to make brake adjustments after I cast.
You are 100% right about the angle of the rod. If the rod is pointed toward your bait the clicker will release easier. I once messed around the house and tested how much it would take to release the clicker. I did so by tying pyramid sinkers to my line and then picking them up off of the ground with my rod. When picking the weight off of the ground with the pole horizontal to the ground I could easily lift a 6oz pyramid sinker without the clicker releasing. However when I tried to pick it up with the rod vertical to the ground, the clicker would slip slightly. Hope that makes some sense.
Like I stated above, these reels aren't made for small fish. They really shine when using large live bait. Because most bait won't pull the clicker as they would with abu 6000's or 6500's.
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Post by Skyline1506 on Sept 10, 2011 12:35:58 GMT -5
I have an Abu Garcia 7000b and the clicker in it is amazingly stiff. I always liked that for keeping bigger baits still so they didnt run the clicker at all. But while throwing cutbait I noticed i get quite a few runs that was only take a foot of line and never come back...think the clicker tention is scaring them off? Should I reserve this reel just for circle hooks and flatheads? that is def a big fish reel run it for flats and hell yea bow that boy up on all 3 species in ohio and you will love it |
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