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Post by Seanstone on Aug 6, 2013 22:26:18 GMT -5
Man thats awesome. Well done guys. Seems like you were teaching them all of the basics. Poster boards and bait cutting.......sounds like a winning science fair project to me. Lol.
Good job guys.
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Post by Seanstone on Aug 3, 2013 12:22:39 GMT -5
I use a Palomar for everything except my hook.....I snell it.
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Post by Seanstone on Aug 3, 2013 12:19:18 GMT -5
Im also from south west ohio.....I better watch what I say around you. Lol. Welcome to the site. Lots of good guys here.
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Post by Seanstone on Aug 1, 2013 21:32:51 GMT -5
thanks guys. I appreciate the input. i think i am just going to go with a shakespeare wildcat. Yea I hear good things about those rods chuck. I think those are the ones sean swears by. I just am not going to spend 30 on a rod that will not be seeing a whole lot of water time. I only make a few lake erie trips a year. i will use them there for channels and walleye. and for stripers which i do only a few times a year too. the wildcats are like 15 bucks. that is more my style for a multi species rod Yep those mh ugly cats are great rods for fish up to 35lbs....any more and your looking for heartbreaks. They are perfect channel cat rods....wouldn't even think about using any other rod for channels. There not heavy so you can cast and drift floats all day long...or you can set them in a rod holder and watch em load up. They have a fair amount of power for thier weight and size. Love those rods. Ive got 2 over 30lbs on mine. My big cat rods are big cats.... lol. Sent from my SCH-I545 using proboards
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Post by Seanstone on Jul 30, 2013 13:43:39 GMT -5
Way to go. The big ones will come in time.
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Post by Seanstone on Jul 30, 2013 11:23:11 GMT -5
I want something 9' with the strength of the tigers. Thats tough. I think the markets just not there for shore guys. Theres really two categories of rods....boat rods and surf rods. Your surf rods are typically 10 foot plus and your boat rods are 7 to 8 foot . The quantum big cats are 7'10" and have thr strength of a tiger rod. Assuming you are talking strength as in power. The only downfall is that they have inserts rather than stainless steel guides. I have had no problems with them though. Now I have found rods the that get into thr 9 foot class and have heavy power ratings. They are classified as musky rods. The ones I found where made by st. Croix and cost a small fortune...my girlfriend has 2. They have inserts as well. Maybe you can find a cheap alternative. im not 100 percent positive but I then ugly stick customs are made in 9 foot models too. You might wanna check though Sent from my SCH-I545 using proboards
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Post by Seanstone on Jul 27, 2013 18:37:02 GMT -5
My fishing log from the last two years show a direct relationship between more and better channel cats during low pressure conditions. I use channel cats because I catch more of them than flathead or bluecats. A larger sample size leads to more accurate results.
Now...under low pressure conditions it tends to rain, has recently rained, or is getting ready to rain........so maybe they feed better when it rains instead of just when the pressure is low.
Rain also brings increased flow/current, increased oxygen, increased surface disturbance/noise, etc.
So why I catch more and better fish during low pressure periods is up for debate. All I can say is that I do catch more and bigger fish during low pressure periods.
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Post by Seanstone on Jul 25, 2013 13:41:00 GMT -5
Carolina rigged. I dont use the two hook method unless I am using giant bait or getting short bites.
I like pyramid sinkers in lakes better than i do in rivers. Pyramids will anchor a bait better than a no roll. If I use live baits ill tylically use a pyramid....because if my bait trys to drag my sinker around it will dig into the soft bottom. I wrote an article on sinker types and it should be under the catfishing articles and tip section. ...it will be called sinkers. Its basic but it should help.
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Post by Seanstone on Jul 25, 2013 13:19:09 GMT -5
Id start with no roll sinkers and adjust the weight with the current. I like to start light. 3oz and move up if needed. I have them up 8oz which is plenty for ohio. With any current at all I use circle hooks and out my rods in rod holders with the reels engaged. For blues and flats id use an 8/0 circle hook. Remeber to barely hook thr bait. You dont have to try and hide the hook....catfish wont care if they fwel something hard and sharp. They eat bones all the time. Also make sure your hook is in a good spot....one where it wont burry itself back into the bait. I have had rods double over and never hook a fish. I reel my bait in to find that the hook has re hooked the bait. Another tip.... if your fishing heavy current make sure your hook is in a bait in such a way that it doesnt cause your bait to spin in current. There are tons of videos on YouTube that can help you.....start with steve douglas. His info on blue fishing is invaluable. One thing to consider is that blues tend to eat cutbait more frequently and flathead tend to eat live bait more often. Ive caught more flathead on cutbait than I have blues on live bait....so I tend to use cutbait more often on big rivers. Its usually easier to keep too. Sent from my SCH-I545 using proboards
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Post by Seanstone on Jul 25, 2013 13:07:15 GMT -5
Im really not the one to talk to about braid.....I am very biased. I hate the stuff. However...
Braid has no stretch what so ever so you will feel and see everything. It's good for long hooksets. ...if your dropping baits 100 yards out, drifting deep water, etc. However if you get it around rocks, rebar, etc. forget about landing fish. It gets cut easy. I have broke braid on hooksets quite often. It tends to be really strong under constant pressure but a shock will break it easy. Braid also has a tendency to bind on itself causing your drag not to slip.
Monofilament has stretch so its more forgiving to shock. Its also more abrasion resistant in cover. For me I like mono. Before you decide see what everyone else thinks.....like I said I am very biased.
With stainless steel eyes you will be fine running braid. I think most rods now have eyes capable of handling braid without getting cut.
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Post by Seanstone on Jul 24, 2013 22:17:34 GMT -5
Yea definitely back the drags off like kip and rollo said. I have seen guys bend heavy duty commercial rod holders nearly flat on blues and big flathead. Id rather see you lose a fish that all your gear. 100lb braid seems a bit much to me but I know some guys on here that use mason braided line. Its darn near rope. Im of the opinion that you can only put so much pressure on a fish so you don't need big line. Most of my drags will slip at 9 to 12lbs of pressure. I run 40lb mono to help with abrasion but if im in open water id feel confident with way less.....20 or 30lb test would work fine. Braids has its advantages and disadvantages though. Make sure you know them before you buy and use braid. Sent from my SCH-I545 using proboards Sent from my SCH-I545 using proboards
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Post by Seanstone on Jul 24, 2013 22:17:20 GMT -5
Yea definitely back the drags off like kip and rollo said. I have seen guys bend heavy duty commercial rod holders nearly flat on blues and big flathead. Id rather see you lose a fish that all your gear. 100lb braid seems a bit much to me but I know some guys on here that use mason braided line. Its darn near rope. Im of the opinion that you can only put so much pressure on a fish so you don't need big line. Most of my drags will slip at 9 to 12lbs of pressure. I run 40lb mono to help with abrasion but if im in open water id feel confident with way less.....20 or 30lb test would work fine. Braids has its advantages and diaadvantages though. Make sure you know them before you buy and use braid. Sent from my SCH-I545 using proboards
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Post by Seanstone on Jul 24, 2013 22:07:31 GMT -5
The mediym heavy is what you need. It will be a solid good all around rod for big cats. Cant beat the price either.
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Post by Seanstone on Jul 24, 2013 21:08:50 GMT -5
I have the bass tournament this weekend....after that I will set my bass rods aside and target cats. I always do better in the fall.
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Post by Seanstone on Jul 24, 2013 8:50:47 GMT -5
Congrats on yet another exceptional flathead. I caught my pb flattie on a full moon. Sent from my SCH-I545 using proboards
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